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		<title>Evangelism as the Sharing of Ache and Hope</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JR Rozko</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love it when objects of two different worlds come colliding together.  Think &#8220;Say Anything,&#8221; &#8220;Bringing Down the House,&#8221; or &#8220;The Toy.&#8221; In each instance people who have virtually nothing in common are thrust into one another&#8217;s lives creating the opportunity for, to borrow a phrase from my friend Geoff, &#8220;generative tension.&#8221; This happened in [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when objects of two different worlds come colliding together.  Think &#8220;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098258/" target="_blank">Say Anything</a>,&#8221; &#8220;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098258/" target="_blank">Bringing Down the House</a>,&#8221; or &#8220;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084809/">The Toy</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5325" title="say anything" src="http://lifeasmission.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/say-anything.jpeg" alt="" width="122" height="163" /> <img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-5324" title="bringing down the house" src="http://lifeasmission.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/bringing-down-the-house.jpeg" alt="" width="107" height="158" /> <img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-5326" title="the toy" src="http://lifeasmission.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/the-toy-209x300.jpg" alt="" width="110" height="158" /></p>
<p>In each instance people who have virtually nothing in common are thrust into one another&#8217;s lives creating the opportunity for, to borrow a phrase from my friend Geoff, &#8220;generative tension.&#8221;</p>
<p>This happened in my life recently.</p>
<p>To the list of &#8216;socially awkward misfit meets valedictorian,&#8217; &#8216;lawyer meets convict,&#8217; and &#8216;poor black adult meets rich white kid,&#8217; I can now add, Dan Allender meets Eminem.</p>
<p>A few days ago I began listening to a series of talks offered by <a href="http://www.mhgs.edu/conferences/Dan-B--Allender,-PhD" target="_blank">Dan Allender</a>, a Christian counselor, author, speaker, and the President of <a href="http://www.mhgs.edu/" target="_blank">Mars Hill Graduate School</a> in Seattle, WA.</p>
<p>In one of his talks, he offered this little nugget,</p>
<blockquote><p>Evangelism is essentially sharing our stories long enough to discover a common ache and a common hope.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, as my friend Annie pointed out in a conversation about this sentiment, it doesn&#8217;t capture the full scope of what might qualify as evangelism (and I don&#8217;t think that was Dan&#8217;s intention anyway).  However, I do think it pushes us to a place of realization that, inasmuch as Jesus was God&#8217;s way of entering into the story of humanity&#8217;s deep aches and fulfilling its greatest hopes, we are called to do the same for others.</p>
<p>Somewhere in the course of listening to these talks, I came across a new music video by Eminem featuring Rihanna entitled, &#8220;Love the Way You Lie.&#8221; (ht: <a href="http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/08/10/love-the-way-you-lieneeding-to-feel/" target="_blank">Jonathan Brink</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll embed it below, but let me offer 2 things first, a disclaimer and a reflection.</p>
<p><strong>Disclaimer</strong>: The video contains language and imagery that some might find objectionable.  If you can&#8217;t get past that, please do us both a favor and skip it.  I&#8217;ll say this though, the language and imagery is far from gratuitous.  I think it is used appropriately and poignantly to convey the weight of the issue.</p>
<p><strong>Reflection</strong>:  The song and video tell the story of a couple who quite transparently have deep aches and deep hopes.  The tragic irony of the situation is that they are trying to come to terms with both through a violent and endless cycle of love and hate, truth and lies.</p>
<p>I think the reason that I like this quote from Allender so much is that it asks us to be come alongside people as guides as opposed to stand at a distance and offer directions.  There is this great tendency we have to get so focused on telling people that they need to arrive at a particular destination that we completely neglect the more important matter of identifying the &#8220;You are here&#8221; spot at which they stand.  Directions, after all, are of little use unless you know where you&#8217;re starting from.</p>
<p>The last observation I&#8217;ll make as a result of the generative tension between Allender&#8217;s quote and Eminem&#8217;s video is that without the right direction, we create our own personal hells &#8211; something that is visually captured at the end of this clip.  As people of ache and hope, when we try to alleviate our aches and fulfill our hopes in ways that God never intended, we suffer.  All the more reason for those of us who have been met by God at the point of our ache and who place our hope in God&#8217;s salvific work in the world through Christ to listen to the stories of others as we share ours and allow God to do that same work all over again.</p>
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<li><a href='http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2011/07/going-to-church-is-not-a-reality-i-want-for-my-daughter/' rel='bookmark' title='&#8220;Going to Church&#8221; Is Not A Reality I Want For My Daughter'>&#8220;Going to Church&#8221; Is Not A Reality I Want For My Daughter</a></li>
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		<title>Lots of People in Hell Have Perfect Doctrine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JR Rozko</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was listening the other day to a message given by a teaching pastor that I respect.  He was teaching on baptism, specifically whether or not aspiring members needed to share the official doctrinal stance of the church before being accepted as members.  Rather than addressing that question directly, he decided to take a round-about [...]
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<p style="text-align: left;">I was listening the other day to a message given by a teaching pastor that I respect.  He was teaching on baptism, specifically whether or not aspiring members needed to share the official doctrinal stance of the church before being accepted as members.  Rather than addressing that question directly, he decided to take a round-about approach.</p>
<p><span id="niv30337" class="verse">He spoke of how important it is for the church to create a </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span id="niv30337" class="verse">relational culture&#8230;</span>that is more intentionally and radically servant-like, other-oriented, thoughtful, outgoing, humble, thankful, aggressively concerned and caring, moving into the lives of others rather than moving away from them, committed to the hard work and sweet rewards of loving other people in the church.</p></blockquote>
<p>He drew these characteristics from <a href="http://ebible.com/bible/colossians 3%3A12-17" target="_blank">Colossians 3:12-17</a>.  And his point was essentially this; it is in this sort of context that wisdom flourishes and when wisdom flourishes we can hope to come to agreement about baptism.</p>
<p>And here was my first thought.  If you have successfully created a relational culture of the sort mentioned above, who in the heck cares if you are in agreement about baptism?!</p>
<p>Do you see what I mean here?  It&#8217;s like finding ways to mutually inspire love, affection, connection, commitment, and excitement in marriage and then, when you do, thinking that it would be a good idea to talk about how you define love.  Who cares how you define it if you &#8216;re already both experiencing it?  In fact, defining it might be the most sure-fire way to kill it as you nit-pick at nuanced differences.</p>
<p>I am not in the least bit saying that there is no connection whatsoever between doctrine (what we say we believe) and praxis (how we live).  I am just saying that if you are living out a faithful Christian witness and example where God is glorified, your doctrinal stances matter very little.</p>
<p>Another problem.  At another point the pastor said,</p>
<blockquote><p>As a member of this church, you can be wrong on election, wrong on the power of sin, wrong on the extent of atonement, wrong on the power of grace, wrong on perseverance, and wrong on the sovereignty of God&#8230; [but you can still be a member]</p></blockquote>
<p>Man, I chafe under this sort of mentality.  &#8220;We, as the pastors and elders, have all the important doctrinal stuff worked out, and you don&#8217;t have to agree with us to be a member here, but this is the way it is, and we will pray for you to come around.&#8221;  I can imagine nothing more inhibitory to what Chritian community is all about than this sort of mindset.  How is the church supposed to listen to the Holy Spirit and fall in love with God through Scripture together if it&#8217;s a 1-way street?</p>
<p>I seriously pray for myself that I would always be more passioante about God than my limited ability to understand and articulate God.</p>
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