I’m excited to be gathering tonight and tomorrow with some pastors and leaders from around the Chicagoland area and a bit beyond to talk about discipleship in a missional context. We’re gathering in Hyde Park where some friends from Life on the Vine are in the process of moving into and exploring how the Kingdom might take shape.
I think this is a topic that a great number of us have at the front of our minds, but aren’t always able to speak to as directly as we’d like so I am looking forward to the conversation and stuff the Spirit surfaces.
So, since everyone has been so gracious in offering input on my doctoral considerations,
I’m wondering what you might want to say or ask related to this issue of discipleship in a missional context – ie. how do we think of and go about discipling people to participate in God’s mission in the world.
I’ll chance in periodically and add your comments and questions to our discussion.
We’ll also be trying to pound out some of the details for the next Missional Learning Commons. Stay tuned for more details on that.
Brian Miller said...
1Action-Reflection over Presentation
Practice/Process over Principles
Presentation & Principles are, of course, important. However, they have become our default means of discipleship. Let's default with Action-Reflection & heavy reliance on Practices. These make presentation and principles more meaningful anyway.
09/3/10 5:51 PM | Comment Link
Ryan Bell said...
2I may be too late for your gathering, but…this is a topic we're thinking a lot about in our congregation right now. It's the next big thing for us. What I'm concerned about are processes that don't end up becoming a kind of modernist "assembly line."
Like Brian above, shared practices must be a key part of this, but a fluid process seems important in my context, or else people are just going to opt out of the whole thing. There is big resistence to feeling like you're being processes through some kind of magic washing machine where you come out a Christian on the other end. We must insist on some things for discipleship, but what to insist on?
09/5/10 7:40 PM | Comment Link
jrrozko said...
3Thanks for these thoughts Brian. I think the majority of us in on the discussion were already at a point where we took these differences for granted. However, I'm sure that there could have been more work done in discussing how these play out in the life of a congregation. I'll try to get a summary of our discussion up soon.
09/6/10 9:01 PM | Comment Link
jrrozko said...
4Hey Ryan. This really is an interesting tension to live with. How do we identify disciple-making practices/processes appropriate for our context w/o making it feel like an "assembly line?" I suppose the X-factor in my mind is relationships. Relationships add an additional layer of contextualization to these practices and processes so that there is never a truly "one-size-fits-all" approach to discipleship. Any thoughts on that?
09/6/10 9:05 PM | Comment Link