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	<title>Comments on: Transitioning Traditional Churches into Missional Ones</title>
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	<description>exploring the mystery of life and mission as one and the same</description>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-7623</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, thanks for stopping by.  It&#039;s encouraging to see this post getting hits and comments a year after it was first published.  I am at the very beginning of a doctorate in missiology, so I am getting to press into this kind of stuff more and more.  I&#039;m genuinely excited for what I&#039;ll be learning and doing (this degree is largely predicated on field research) over the next four years.  I&#039;m assuming you&#039;ll be at the national gathering in Feb.  Hope to connect if that&#039;s the case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, thanks for stopping by.  It&#039;s encouraging to see this post getting hits and comments a year after it was first published.  I am at the very beginning of a doctorate in missiology, so I am getting to press into this kind of stuff more and more.  I&#039;m genuinely excited for what I&#039;ll be learning and doing (this degree is largely predicated on field research) over the next four years.  I&#039;m assuming you&#039;ll be at the national gathering in Feb.  Hope to connect if that&#039;s the case. </p>
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		<title>By: Alan Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT thoughts J.R. This is a question that many churches are bold enough to ask, but few are willing to actually face. It seems that many guys are leaving established churches to plant churches where we can have &#039;mission from the start.&#039; This post is valuable for churches turning the ship.           Press on man! 
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saintequipper.com/2011/01/book-review-church-planting-movements/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Book Review- &#8216;Church Planting Movements&#8217;&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT thoughts J.R. This is a question that many churches are bold enough to ask, but few are willing to actually face. It seems that many guys are leaving established churches to plant churches where we can have &#039;mission from the start.&#039; This post is valuable for churches turning the ship.           Press on man!<br />
My recent post <a href="http://www.saintequipper.com/2011/01/book-review-church-planting-movements/" rel="nofollow">Book Review- &lsquo;Church Planting Movements&rsquo;</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Working with &#8220;Futuristics&#8221; &#8211; Part 2C &#171; futuristguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working with &#8220;Futuristics&#8221; &#8211; Part 2C &#171; futuristguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 22:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over, and out. (For a blog post and several comments addressing A.I./appreciative inquiry, see Transitioning Traditional Churches into Missional Ones at JR Rozko’s “Life as Mission” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] over, and out. (For a blog post and several comments addressing A.I./appreciative inquiry, see Transitioning Traditional Churches into Missional Ones at JR Rozko’s “Life as Mission” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6287</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely - implementing a praxis model like this is jam-packed with potential for transformation.  Giving people room and grace to fail is something that far too few leaders seem to be able to do well, but is likewise vital to healthy change I&#039;m sure.  Thanks for adding to the conversation Ryan. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely &#8211; implementing a praxis model like this is jam-packed with potential for transformation.  Giving people room and grace to fail is something that far too few leaders seem to be able to do well, but is likewise vital to healthy change I&#39;m sure.  Thanks for adding to the conversation Ryan. </p>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6286</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really cool idea, thanks Brad. </description>
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		<title>By: brad/futuristguy</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6284</link>
		<dc:creator>brad/futuristguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a culture of &quot;niceness,&quot; we don&#039;t deal well with public displays of grief or processing of lament over the realities of difficult AND PERMANENT changes.  
 
The best practical suggestion I ever heard for church mergers may apply to transitions as well, since both require paradigm shifts. Here&#039;s what one merger did, when a older-population/declining church invited in a younger-population/church plant. For several months, members of the host (older) church put a time-line by decades on the wall of the largest meeting room. Anyone who had memories or photos of people and events and God&#039;s activities among the congregation from those decades posted them. They devoted some public time to recounting that history, from the host-church people who were there as eye-witnesses, while those of the church plant listened in and celebrate with them. Later, the church plant recounted their shorter history with a similar timeline and public sharing. And the church-plant timeline on the wall merged with that of the host church on the date of &quot;relaunch.&quot; 
 
It really did seem to work, because the stories and people were valued, the time spent was intentional and not seen as wasteful, and it visually signified the death of BOTH parties in the merger, and the BIRTH of something new that had never been before. Both &quot;sides&quot; lost everything, and gained everything, in this process ... 
 
Now, that&#039;s the healthiest example I&#039;ve ever heard. Wish others would follow it, especially seeing that it simply cannot be one side doing all the change and the other side simply leading the change. (And it isn&#039;t always the younger church in a merger controlling the change process, as I have unfortunately seen.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a culture of &quot;niceness,&quot; we don&#039;t deal well with public displays of grief or processing of lament over the realities of difficult AND PERMANENT changes.  </p>
<p>The best practical suggestion I ever heard for church mergers may apply to transitions as well, since both require paradigm shifts. Here&#039;s what one merger did, when a older-population/declining church invited in a younger-population/church plant. For several months, members of the host (older) church put a time-line by decades on the wall of the largest meeting room. Anyone who had memories or photos of people and events and God&#039;s activities among the congregation from those decades posted them. They devoted some public time to recounting that history, from the host-church people who were there as eye-witnesses, while those of the church plant listened in and celebrate with them. Later, the church plant recounted their shorter history with a similar timeline and public sharing. And the church-plant timeline on the wall merged with that of the host church on the date of &quot;relaunch.&quot; </p>
<p>It really did seem to work, because the stories and people were valued, the time spent was intentional and not seen as wasteful, and it visually signified the death of BOTH parties in the merger, and the BIRTH of something new that had never been before. Both &quot;sides&quot; lost everything, and gained everything, in this process &#8230; </p>
<p>Now, that&#039;s the healthiest example I&#039;ve ever heard. Wish others would follow it, especially seeing that it simply cannot be one side doing all the change and the other side simply leading the change. (And it isn&#039;t always the younger church in a merger controlling the change process, as I have unfortunately seen.) </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bolger</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6283</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Bolger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR -- Great post ---  
The only thing I can add is the idea that we are transformed through our experiences -- so the sooner one can experience missional activity, the sooner their minds will be transformed as well. Leading a congregation through conversation about their dreams for mission is a good first step. Having folks take very modest steps with those dreams -- very small pilot projects by early adopters where it is okay to fail. These creative experiments have the potential to spread like a virus through the community. Because they come from below, they are voluntary, and they are new ministry activities outside existing programs, they will step on very few toes (hopefully). After a few months, look at what happened, and see if you would like to try it again... 
My two cents </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR &#8212; Great post &#8212;<br />
The only thing I can add is the idea that we are transformed through our experiences &#8212; so the sooner one can experience missional activity, the sooner their minds will be transformed as well. Leading a congregation through conversation about their dreams for mission is a good first step. Having folks take very modest steps with those dreams &#8212; very small pilot projects by early adopters where it is okay to fail. These creative experiments have the potential to spread like a virus through the community. Because they come from below, they are voluntary, and they are new ministry activities outside existing programs, they will step on very few toes (hopefully). After a few months, look at what happened, and see if you would like to try it again&#8230;<br />
My two cents </p>
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		<title>By: JoshGarrington</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6282</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshGarrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of assumed as much, but I might actually find a Sunday morning to meet with you.  Spending a week or two crashing at your house would be significantly more impossible :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of assumed as much, but I might actually find a Sunday morning to meet with you.  Spending a week or two crashing at your house would be significantly more impossible <img src='http://lifeasmission.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6281</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure.  We&#039;re down to have you anytime.  But here&#039;s something important to consider, because of their nature, missional churches ones you can visit for a worship service and &quot;get.&quot;  It&#039;s how the church operates during the week and over time that makes it &quot;missional.&quot; Our gatherings are packed full of significance and reflect a different ecclesiology for sure, but it&#039;s a really, really small part of the picture.  This is why so many people &quot;check out&quot; so called missional churches and don&#039;t necessarily get what all the hype is about. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure.  We&#039;re down to have you anytime.  But here&#039;s something important to consider, because of their nature, missional churches ones you can visit for a worship service and &quot;get.&quot;  It&#039;s how the church operates during the week and over time that makes it &quot;missional.&quot; Our gatherings are packed full of significance and reflect a different ecclesiology for sure, but it&#039;s a really, really small part of the picture.  This is why so many people &quot;check out&quot; so called missional churches and don&#039;t necessarily get what all the hype is about. </p>
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		<title>By: JoshGarrington</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6280</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshGarrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post JR.  Between it and the comments it gave me a lot to think about. 
 
I still want to get down there and visit Life on the Vine with you guys sometime and experience this thing first hand. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post JR.  Between it and the comments it gave me a lot to think about. </p>
<p>I still want to get down there and visit Life on the Vine with you guys sometime and experience this thing first hand. </p>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6279</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, the place and impact of lament in moving forward in missional identity and influence just cannot be overstated, AMEN! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, the place and impact of lament in moving forward in missional identity and influence just cannot be overstated, AMEN! </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Coker</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6278</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Coker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was exactly my experience in a large well-established church that tried to use appreciative inquiry as a catalyst for transition back in 06-07. Our intention was to approach a potentially painful experience (a paradigm shift) in a positive way and therefore avoid the pitfall of disillusionment that often comes from open critique. The immediate problem was that AI simply gave conventional thinkers the opportunity to hang on to old wineskins. This basically halted the process because the senior leaders (which included me) either adjusted their idea of the paradigm shift to fit these responses or they simply lost hope that the people actually could be transitioned. 
 
Having been through the process of planting now I&#039;ve come to discover that planting doesn&#039;t usually get you of the hook for this transition, because you&#039;re still often transitioning people who join your plant - and I&#039;ve learned there&#039;s something else that we missed at that bigger church: the critical role of lament. By trying to avoid critique we miss out on the importance of lamenting and the ensuing newness of life that comes on the other side of lament. I think we in evangelicalism have lost a sense of the importance of critique and lament to the process of renewal and rebirth, and I think we&#039;ve largely failed to recognize - and therefore affirm - that much of what has come to be known as Emerging was essentially a large scale lament by divers sectors of Christendom.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was exactly my experience in a large well-established church that tried to use appreciative inquiry as a catalyst for transition back in 06-07. Our intention was to approach a potentially painful experience (a paradigm shift) in a positive way and therefore avoid the pitfall of disillusionment that often comes from open critique. The immediate problem was that AI simply gave conventional thinkers the opportunity to hang on to old wineskins. This basically halted the process because the senior leaders (which included me) either adjusted their idea of the paradigm shift to fit these responses or they simply lost hope that the people actually could be transitioned. </p>
<p>Having been through the process of planting now I&#039;ve come to discover that planting doesn&#039;t usually get you of the hook for this transition, because you&#039;re still often transitioning people who join your plant &#8211; and I&#039;ve learned there&#039;s something else that we missed at that bigger church: the critical role of lament. By trying to avoid critique we miss out on the importance of lamenting and the ensuing newness of life that comes on the other side of lament. I think we in evangelicalism have lost a sense of the importance of critique and lament to the process of renewal and rebirth, and I think we&#039;ve largely failed to recognize &#8211; and therefore affirm &#8211; that much of what has come to be known as Emerging was essentially a large scale lament by divers sectors of Christendom.    </p>
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		<title>By: brad/futuristguy</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator>brad/futuristguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi JR, and thanks for letting me mega-blog/clog here. Somehow it seems your topics bring out the interest and opportunity to synthesize lotsa stuff, and I virtually &quot;get out of my own house&quot; so rarely, that it&#039;s sort of a now-or-never thing. Anyway, Dr. Branson&#039;s caution fits much of what I feel I experienced at the second church I wrote about. It didn&#039;t expand its horizons or get out of the same old box. And sadly, the one box most familiar to us that always stays the same size is otherwise known as a coffin ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JR, and thanks for letting me mega-blog/clog here. Somehow it seems your topics bring out the interest and opportunity to synthesize lotsa stuff, and I virtually &quot;get out of my own house&quot; so rarely, that it&#039;s sort of a now-or-never thing. Anyway, Dr. Branson&#039;s caution fits much of what I feel I experienced at the second church I wrote about. It didn&#039;t expand its horizons or get out of the same old box. And sadly, the one box most familiar to us that always stays the same size is otherwise known as a coffin &#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: jrrozko</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrrozko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, thanks for all your thoughts here.  With regard to your comments on appreciative inquiry, I had a similar critique of the process when I was in class with Dr. Mark Lau Branson.  Unless there is a concurrent attempt to help a congregation re-imagine what biblical/missional faithfulness entails, their memories, hopes, and conversations will always be limited to a certain grid.  The leadership task here is finally nuanced.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, thanks for all your thoughts here.  With regard to your comments on appreciative inquiry, I had a similar critique of the process when I was in class with Dr. Mark Lau Branson.  Unless there is a concurrent attempt to help a congregation re-imagine what biblical/missional faithfulness entails, their memories, hopes, and conversations will always be limited to a certain grid.  The leadership task here is finally nuanced.   </p>
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		<title>By: brad/futuristguy</title>
		<link>http://lifeasmission.com/blog/2010/01/transitioning-traditional-churches-into-missional-ones/comment-page-1/#comment-6275</link>
		<dc:creator>brad/futuristguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2. ATTEMPTED TRADITIONAL TO TRANSITIONAL. The other church had almost no 20-/30-somethings, with Builder and Boomer leaders seeking to add in the younger generational layer in order to have someone to pass on their legacy to. Over a period of about five years, more leaders from younger generations came in &#8211; the first wave by personal invitation, and then they began bringing in friends. But most of them worked from a more non-linear paradigm. This came into regular conflict with the conventional-hierarchical-linear paradigm of senior leaders, and ultimately, most of the non-linear types left. And by the end of 10 years of &#8220;transition,&#8221; the church was pretty much back where it started, both culturally and demographically. 
 
I&#8217;m reminded here of a quote from long-time church consultant Lyle Schaller, when he taught in 1999 at a conference on the church, leadership, and seminaries in the 21st century. In talking about paradigm shifts, he said, &#8220;When the sequential [i.e., conventional] church leaders do not accommodate the concurrent [i.e., random, non-linear] thinkers, the concurrent people lose hope.&#8221; As best I can recall, he believed many major denominations were going to be in big trouble, as were many seminaries, because of this problem of paradigms. In fact, he expected many such organizations to fail within 25 years. 
 
JR Rozko recommended a book on &#8220;appreciative inquiry.&#8221; This process can be helpful to figure out what assets a group has, or track what its long-term &#8220;redemptive purpose&#8221; seems to have been in that cultural/neighborhood setting. However, a note of caution: I saw church leaders at the second church who supposedly wanted to transition. But it appears to me that they ultimately hid behind what they traditionally did well. They let a focus on &#8220;being positive&#8221; and &#8220;unity&#8221; obscure the very areas that needed strengthening to truly transition into a paradigm that fit with the emerging cultural framework that had been changing around them for decades. They did not transition because they sought to reformat, not reintegrate. The &#8220;new&#8221; version looked strikingly like the old, still in the images of the current leaders and the church&#8217;s past glories. 
 
From this, I came to see that we may find that what assets or purposes were invaluable in a former paradigm, culture, or church methodological model could actually prove to be a liability in the context of the dominant paradigm or current culture. Transition is about a paradigm SHIFT not simply a purpose-statement or program SHUFFLE. 
 
A final note. I am still working on this concept and how to express it, so for now, I&#8217;ll just have to blurt it out and keep refining it. It&#8217;s the idea of push and pull, and how they sometimes get reversed in the transition process. Conventional leaders tend to vision cast to &#8220;push&#8221; people toward what they see the future should/will look like. New-edge leaders tend to vision carry and embody what that future already looks like, so they can &#8220;pull&#8221; people toward that future. I think transition could work better with this specific combination of push/pull &#8211; it keeps people of different paradigms and generations in a mode of collaboration.  
 
It doesn&#8217;t work well when the new-edge leaders try to push people toward the future (those who live in that unknown land can easily generate fear in those who don&#8217;t) while the conventional leaders try to pull them there (these leaders may only glimpse that &#8220;right&#8221; future in theory and have gaps in their practice).  
 
Does that make sense? A blog-post and story for another time &#8230; and this topic is, in fact, on my schedule to address before I end my futuristguy blog this April (or however things unfold).  
 
Meanwhile, I also posted this comment as an article at the following address. There may end up being comments there, and I&#039;ll post follow-up articles if/when I can: 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/thoughts-on-transitioning-traditional-to-missional/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/thoug...&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2. ATTEMPTED TRADITIONAL TO TRANSITIONAL. The other church had almost no 20-/30-somethings, with Builder and Boomer leaders seeking to add in the younger generational layer in order to have someone to pass on their legacy to. Over a period of about five years, more leaders from younger generations came in &ndash; the first wave by personal invitation, and then they began bringing in friends. But most of them worked from a more non-linear paradigm. This came into regular conflict with the conventional-hierarchical-linear paradigm of senior leaders, and ultimately, most of the non-linear types left. And by the end of 10 years of &ldquo;transition,&rdquo; the church was pretty much back where it started, both culturally and demographically. </p>
<p>I&rsquo;m reminded here of a quote from long-time church consultant Lyle Schaller, when he taught in 1999 at a conference on the church, leadership, and seminaries in the 21st century. In talking about paradigm shifts, he said, &ldquo;When the sequential [i.e., conventional] church leaders do not accommodate the concurrent [i.e., random, non-linear] thinkers, the concurrent people lose hope.&rdquo; As best I can recall, he believed many major denominations were going to be in big trouble, as were many seminaries, because of this problem of paradigms. In fact, he expected many such organizations to fail within 25 years. </p>
<p>JR Rozko recommended a book on &ldquo;appreciative inquiry.&rdquo; This process can be helpful to figure out what assets a group has, or track what its long-term &ldquo;redemptive purpose&rdquo; seems to have been in that cultural/neighborhood setting. However, a note of caution: I saw church leaders at the second church who supposedly wanted to transition. But it appears to me that they ultimately hid behind what they traditionally did well. They let a focus on &ldquo;being positive&rdquo; and &ldquo;unity&rdquo; obscure the very areas that needed strengthening to truly transition into a paradigm that fit with the emerging cultural framework that had been changing around them for decades. They did not transition because they sought to reformat, not reintegrate. The &ldquo;new&rdquo; version looked strikingly like the old, still in the images of the current leaders and the church&rsquo;s past glories. </p>
<p>From this, I came to see that we may find that what assets or purposes were invaluable in a former paradigm, culture, or church methodological model could actually prove to be a liability in the context of the dominant paradigm or current culture. Transition is about a paradigm SHIFT not simply a purpose-statement or program SHUFFLE. </p>
<p>A final note. I am still working on this concept and how to express it, so for now, I&rsquo;ll just have to blurt it out and keep refining it. It&rsquo;s the idea of push and pull, and how they sometimes get reversed in the transition process. Conventional leaders tend to vision cast to &ldquo;push&rdquo; people toward what they see the future should/will look like. New-edge leaders tend to vision carry and embody what that future already looks like, so they can &ldquo;pull&rdquo; people toward that future. I think transition could work better with this specific combination of push/pull &ndash; it keeps people of different paradigms and generations in a mode of collaboration.  </p>
<p>It doesn&rsquo;t work well when the new-edge leaders try to push people toward the future (those who live in that unknown land can easily generate fear in those who don&rsquo;t) while the conventional leaders try to pull them there (these leaders may only glimpse that &ldquo;right&rdquo; future in theory and have gaps in their practice).  </p>
<p>Does that make sense? A blog-post and story for another time &hellip; and this topic is, in fact, on my schedule to address before I end my futuristguy blog this April (or however things unfold).  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, I also posted this comment as an article at the following address. There may end up being comments there, and I&#039;ll post follow-up articles if/when I can: </p>
<p><a href="http://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/thoughts-on-transitioning-traditional-to-missional/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/thoug" rel="nofollow">http://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/thoug</a>&#8230; </p>
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