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    May 25th, 2006 · 3 Comments

    I just finished reading an article by Tony Jones published in “Out of Ur,” a blog sponsored by Christianity Today.  To save you the aggravation of a separate click, I am going to post the article in its entirety here.  This is part two of some of Tony Jones’ thoughts on the Emergent Movement, specifically as it understand the place of truth. 

    You can read the first part here.  The main reason I am posting this is because it sums up well what faithful postmodern theologians are saying. Namely, that the heart and soul of Christianity is living with and for God and others, not relentless efforts to decide on what is true and then trying to convince everyone else.  If there is such a thing as truly objective truth, I am relatively uninterested in it, because all it does in the end is puff people up with pride and make them feel superior.  I am much more comfortable saying, “Here’s what I understand to be true, to be honest about why (context, history, expereinces, etc.), but I don’t have a corner on the market for truth, so feel free to explore with me (or better, us).

    Begin Article…

    In part 2 of his post, Tony Jones addresses emerging church critic
    extraordinaire Chuck Colson. Colson sees the Emergent conversation as a
    threat to traditional Christian understandings of the “truth.” Jones responds
    by discussing the interdependence of truth and community—the essence of the
    Emergent Village conversation.

    I thank the many commenters for thoughtful and, generally, gracious
    comments, and I want to respond in a bit of a roundabout manner. If you can
    bear with me, I think I can speak to the concerns of many.

    Yesterday I received my latest copy of Christianity Today. I look
    forward with some ambivalence to the even-numbered months’ editions because
    they contain both the columns of my friend, Andy Crouch, and of
    despiser-of-all-things-emergent, Chuck Colson (and his amaneuensis and, it
    seems, proxy church observer, Anne Morse). Colson has had a burr under his
    saddle about the emerging church for some time—for instance, in his last
    column he equated the emerging church with namby-pamby praise music (as he
    was bemoaning how many Christian radio stations are dropping his daily
    commentaries).

    What Colson’s writing has in fact betrayed over the last couple of years
    is that he knows very little about the emerging church. In this month’s
    column (”Emerging Confusion: Jesus is the Truth Whether We Experience
    Him or Not”), he recounts a recent conversation with a “young
    theologian” named “Jim” (whose name has been changed to
    protect the innocent). “Jim” asked Chuck to take it easy on the
    emergents; they’re just trying to translate the gospel for postmodern folks,
    “Jim” pleaded. That’s a noble motive, Chuck replied, but if they
    undermine truth, then all is lost.

    In his penultimate paragraph, Colson refers to D.A. Carson, fellow critic
    of Emergent, who argues that objective truth precedes relational truth.
    Colson then weighs in with this philosophical doozy: “Truth is truth.”
    (Why don’t you read that again.)

    You see, by saying that “truth is truth,” Colson is essentially
    saying…well, nothing. That’s called a “self-referential
    argument
    ,” or a “circular reference
    and it’s non-sensical; it doesn’t say anything, and it doesn’t mean anything.
    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been speaking and heard similar
    statements. I’ll spend a couple hours doing my best to lay out a rather
    intricate understanding of truth and interpretation, only to be told by an
    audience member that some things are “really, really true,”
    “true with a capital ‘T’” or my personal favorite, “true
    truth.”

    But if I can try to surmise Colson’s meaning from the subtitle of the
    essay, he means to indicate that we in the emerging church have placed too
    much weight on “relational” or “experiential” theories of
    truth. The gospel is true, Colson seems to be saying, regardless of your
    human experience of that truth.

    But philosophically, the obvious follow-up question is, Why? What makes
    the gospel true, especially if those of us in the world have no experience of
    its truthfulness? Is it true because Chuck Colson says so? Because Augustine
    said so? Because Paul said so? Is it true because, as Karl Barth might say,
    God’s revelatory action that breaks into our space-time continuum? But isn’t
    even that subject to our interpretation of the event?

    In the essay, Colson also warns us in the emerging church about being in
    league with Stanley Fish,
    postmodernist extraordinaire and, to Colson’s thinking, the epitome of yucky
    liberalism. Colson quotes Fish as saying that there are no “independent
    standards of objectivity.” Truth cannot be proven to another human being, and
    thus, Colson concludes, Fish is arguing that truth cannot be known.

    But, in fact, Fish says nothing of the kind. What Fish says is that
    objectivity is unattainable. In his excellent book, Is There a Text in
    this Class?,
    Fish argues that truth comes to be known in and among and
    on the basis of “the authority of interpretive communities.” We are
    subjective human beings, trapped in our own skins and inevitably influenced
    by the communities in which we find ourselves. And isn’t this what the church
    is, or at least should be: an authoritative community of interpretation?
    Indeed, isn’t this just what Colson did when he converted to Christianity in
    prison many years ago: placed himself under the authority of the church of
    Jesus Christ?

    What I was trying to get at in my blog post earlier this week is that
    Emergent Village endeavors to be a catalyst of conversation, community, and,
    ultimately, interpretation. We want the church to reclaim its place as the
    authoritative community of interpretation of scripture, culture, and human
    existence. We want Christians to be engaged politically and culturally, and
    we want to provoke robust and respectful dialogue around issues that matter.
    Many of us think that the polemical nature of the church today precludes just
    this kind of necessary conversation. So, we’re going ahead and doing it, with
    or without the imprimatur of evangelical elites like Colson and Carson.

    If that’s a compelling vision for you, then jump on board, we’re glad to
    have you. If, however, you’d like to first see our doctrinal statement on
    penal substitution or read a position paper on homosexuality, then Emergent
    Village isn’t for you.

    Tags: bible · blogging · church · culture · leadership · theology

    3 responses so far ↓

    • 1 Andrew Hall // May 25, 2006 at 6:54 pm

      Where can I get a link to Colson’s entire article?

    • 2 JR Rozko // May 25, 2006 at 7:18 pm

      I believe this is the article Tony was referring to. In it Colson says, “But the gospel above all else is revealed propositional truth…”

    • 3 Christian Symbols and Christian Resources // Oct 12, 2007 at 5:41 am

      Christian Symbols and Christian Resources…

      Sorry, it just sounds like a crazy idea for me :)…

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